Comments on: Monitors that Are TVs and TVs that Are Monitors: Here We Go Again… http://www.displaysearchblog.com/2009/07/monitors-that-are-tvs-and-tvs-that-are-monitors-here-we-go-again/ The Official Blog of DisplaySearch, an NPD Group Company Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:26:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Paul Butler http://www.displaysearchblog.com/2009/07/monitors-that-are-tvs-and-tvs-that-are-monitors-here-we-go-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1708 Paul Butler Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:01:28 +0000 http://www.displaysearchblog.com/?p=778#comment-1708 A little extra information on the European angle is related to duties. In the past the 14% duty on TV's was a barrier and unless you were a large brand such as Samsung or Sony, assembling MFM's in Europe was expensive and complicated. Most smaller brands didn't want to invest in new factories but neither could they provide their products to the market without the 14% up lift in price. In the recent past, with the drops in panel prices the cost barrier for importing has become a lot cheaper (14% of $100 is a lot cheaper than 14% of $250) but the cost of local assembly has remained almost static. If you assemble in Europe, as panel prices have come down (or back up) you need to continuously evaluate the import vs assembly cost ratio. Recently there has been a lot more direct imports at the small 19" - 26" size MFM's than before however, the Korean brands did 'steal a march' and are now producing a lot of these locally for the European market with some substancial sales numbers from the monitor business unit. Interestingly none of the top Japanese TV brands have a desktop monitor business unit in Europe any longer. A hole in the market for a Japanese brand to fill perhaps? Paul A little extra information on the European angle is related to duties. In the past the 14% duty on TV’s was a barrier and unless you were a large brand such as Samsung or Sony, assembling MFM’s in Europe was expensive and complicated. Most smaller brands didn’t want to invest in new factories but neither could they provide their products to the market without the 14% up lift in price. In the recent past, with the drops in panel prices the cost barrier for importing has become a lot cheaper (14% of $100 is a lot cheaper than 14% of $250) but the cost of local assembly has remained almost static. If you assemble in Europe, as panel prices have come down (or back up) you need to continuously evaluate the import vs assembly cost ratio. Recently there has been a lot more direct imports at the small 19″ – 26″ size MFM’s than before however, the Korean brands did ‘steal a march’ and are now producing a lot of these locally for the European market with some substancial sales numbers from the monitor business unit. Interestingly none of the top Japanese TV brands have a desktop monitor business unit in Europe any longer. A hole in the market for a Japanese brand to fill perhaps?
Paul

]]> By: Rustam http://www.displaysearchblog.com/2009/07/monitors-that-are-tvs-and-tvs-that-are-monitors-here-we-go-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1633 Rustam Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:24:10 +0000 http://www.displaysearchblog.com/?p=778#comment-1633 From sales point of view MFM is bestseller comparing to TV, surely small sized ones (19", 20") I have a great experience that 20" MFM - 200 units were sold during 2 weeks from a small shops, though TV only few. I think this is a good competition between real TV and MFM. But I dono why vendors produce MFM cause it is a real competitor of TV. Low income user don't really need high end features of TV he wants to watch TV programs only andlow cost MFM fulfill these needs fully. Rustam From sales point of view MFM is bestseller comparing to TV, surely small sized ones (19″, 20″)
I have a great experience that 20″ MFM – 200 units were sold during 2 weeks from a small shops, though TV only few.
I think this is a good competition between real TV and MFM. But I dono why vendors produce MFM cause it is a real competitor of TV. Low income user don’t really need high end features of TV he wants to watch TV programs only andlow cost MFM fulfill these needs fully.

Rustam

]]> By: Alfred Poor http://www.displaysearchblog.com/2009/07/monitors-that-are-tvs-and-tvs-that-are-monitors-here-we-go-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1476 Alfred Poor Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:16:18 +0000 http://www.displaysearchblog.com/?p=778#comment-1476 Chris et al, this is a great piece! My only contention is that watching video on the Web is rapidly progressing past the "hobby" stage, no matter what Apple seems to think. The rapid growth of watching content on Hulu shows that we're past the geek stage and "average" consumers are beginning to catch on. I feel your pain about the taxonomy problem, and agree that manufacturer self-classification is probably the only workable plan for the present. I would add screen size to the equation, however; a computer monitor is an individual's device, where a TV can be used by individuals but often connotes being able to be viewed by more than one at a time. I'd also add resolution as a factor; anything over 1920 by 1080 is a computer monitor at this point because there's no TV signal available above that resolution. Alfred Chris et al, this is a great piece! My only contention is that watching video on the Web is rapidly progressing past the “hobby” stage, no matter what Apple seems to think. The rapid growth of watching content on Hulu shows that we’re past the geek stage and “average” consumers are beginning to catch on.

I feel your pain about the taxonomy problem, and agree that manufacturer self-classification is probably the only workable plan for the present. I would add screen size to the equation, however; a computer monitor is an individual’s device, where a TV can be used by individuals but often connotes being able to be viewed by more than one at a time. I’d also add resolution as a factor; anything over 1920 by 1080 is a computer monitor at this point because there’s no TV signal available above that resolution.

Alfred

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